Memories of Lueders, Texas
Pirate Chat Line Chatter for 2ndQuarter of 2011
The foregoing messages are displayed in sequences as recieved and without editing.
However, when not provided, the author's name and class year were added:........


April 1, 2011

My father, Delbert passed away on Father's Day in 1993. Alfred's friendhip was a true blessing to my Father. I do not know what he would have done if it had not been for Alfred after Mother died and I moved to Austin.

Gerrell D. Moore, Class of 52


April 2, 2011

Wes copied the picture from the chat line and after numbering the folks to be 156. Nearly 100 are known, but the rows are pretty difficult to align according to the church steps. Folks seem to be easier to find vertically with couples.

Carolyn Mullins Pearson, Class of 65


April 2, 2011
Can we get a list of the 100 people?

Don Smyth, Class of 60


April 2, 2011

Yes please post a list of names you have identified.

Carol Felts. Class of 53


April 2, 2011
Pirates,

We can Welcome Olga "Shelly" Jones, Class of 58 to the Pirate Chat Line.

Ogla are you not Hoadley Shelly's brother who at one point was in my Class of 53 ??

E. Ray Smyth, Class of 53


April 3, 2011

I hope to GOD that olga isn't Hoadley's brother. She has always been a beautiful girl since I have known her, she is my wife's cousin. Olga let us know how the sex change went if this is so.

Jerry Ham, Class of 47


April 3, 2011

Ok Smart Aleck I see what this old man did and I had to read Jerry's message 2 or 3 times to see what in the world he was talking about.

Of course I meant Sister. I guess I was trying to ask if Hoadley was her brother.

E. Ray Smyth, Class of 53


April 3, 2011
Sorry E. Ray I just couldn't resist,

Jerry Ham, Class of 47


April 3, 2011

Sorry again E,Ray yes Olga and Hoadley were brother and sister. A little back ground on me, I worked for Cap & Myrtle, Jack Felts & J.L.Hart. Married Gaynell Petty in Jack Felts home. Then started my times in the oil patch, ruff nek,driller,mud engineer, gas plant operator & etc now retired & still living in Ft. Stockton, Texas.

Jerry Ham, Class of 47


April 3, 2011

I am so happy to be a part of this great effort to keep everyone in closer contact. Looking forward to homecoming 2011. Pretty funny about the sex change . My brother Hoadley died in 1978.

Olga "Shelley" Jones, Class of 58


April 3, 2011

How heart warming it was when I pulled up the picture of the old rock church in which I spent my childhood and adolescent years, where I was baptized, where Don's funeral was held, as well as many of my family members. Where my best friend, Olga Shelley was always there to greet me at Sunday School, and I shall never forget precious Noreta Backus. Ahh---Precious Memories, How They Linger.

You have probably already identified all of the members by now, but I will tell you for sure that the bald man, with glasses, is my brother, Frank Koch, not Delbert Moore. His wife, Pat Koch, is standing in front of him in the white dress. All of these people are near the right side, close to the front.

Robbye Jones is standing to the left of Frank. My Aunt, Era Hines is standing below Pat, to the left in a blue dress.

My mother, Eula Koch is standing in front and between Pat Koch and Meldine Manly with her face half covered. My little niece, Elaine Koch Andress is on the front row in the yellow ruffeld hem dress, dark hair.

My other niece, Tammy Koch McCrory is on the left side of the group (typical teen-ager, didn't want to be anywhere near her parents) standing in the same row with Alton and Verna Mullins, red sweater, dark hair, standing by lady holding little boy.

Elaine and Tammy are Frank and Pat's daughters. Is that Nollie Lawrence Burton in the light blue dress ? She was my mother's best friend.

Also, who is the lady in the lavender dress standing on the ground in front of Lela Mae ? Is it Arlene Felts or Mrs. Mae Dodgen ? Either one, I loved both of them. Arlene was once my Sunday School teacher and Mrs. Dodgen was very much loved by my parents and myself. Mrs. Dodgen and I picked cotton on my dad's farm every year. I always wanted to pick cotton on the row nearest hers. I loved that woman.

I hope that I may have helped some. It has helped me just talking about it. Thank you E Ray for submitting it on the Chat Line. I will need to call Gloria and thank her.

Blessings to You All,

Linda Koch, Class of 58


April 3, 2011
Olga,

Sorry to learn of Hoadley's death.

If you care to read it, I mentioned your brother in a story I wrote about Mike Hart and the story may be read by Clicking:.....   HERE

Not much to the story except it was an event that occurred which your brother was a part of.

Sorry about the goof but, I was tickled by Jerry's response once I figured out what he was talking about.

E. Ray Smyth, Class of 53


April 3, 2011

Olga, thanks for telling me on the Nugent bus the way to help warm up cold hands is to hold a tissue crumpled up in your hand. It has worked all these years on cold days.

Hope to see you in October!

Carolyn Mullins Pearson, Class of 65


April 3, 2011

This has been the most fun jigsaw puzzle to date! Wes put a grid over the picture for easier location of folks. After a couple phone calls tomorrow, the names will be sent.

Carolyn "Mullins" Pearson, Class of 65


April 3, 2011

Thanks, Linda, for the names of your two nieces in the picture. Daddy Carroll Mullins worked with Frank Koch at the refinery.

Carolyn "Mullins" Pearson, Class of 65


April 4, 2011

E Ray, you are doing a GREAT GREAT GREAT job with this chat line, I know everyone appreciates the time you have invested so all Pirates can keep up with their old friends.

Danny "Pete" Zips, Class of 62


April 4, 2011
Right on

Jackie Cox, Class of 62


April 4, 2011

Is that Mary Lou Douthit between Bea Moore and Neelie Burkman?

Was the relative of the Felts name really Bobba, or was that a nickname?

Carolyn "Mullins" Pearson, Class of 65


April 4, 2011

No, definitely not Marilou Douthit. (She was Methodist!) Bobba is what Mae Dodgen's grandkids called her.

I think that is Bythel Cowan's daughter, Lucille Cowan Lindsay and her husband Glen Lindsay standing near Bythel. (They lived in Abilene at the time.) She is now deceased. I don't know about him.

Definitely not Jane Winkles Eubanks ? (She had another last name I don't remember).

Not Betty Winkles Armstrong either (deceased).

Ramona "Mullins" Hamilton, Class of 54


April 5, 2011

Glen and Lucille Cowan Lindsay had Donald Lindsay that was my age, so could that be Donnie with his wife and child?

Carolyn "Mullins" Pearson, Class of 65


April 6, 2011

Cynthia Reves confirmed these two are Phillip Newsom and Norman Lambert.

Carolyn "Mullins" Pearson, Class of 65


April 6, 2011

Cynthia said if some ladies were wearing corsages, it was probably Mother's Day. I do think I see some corsages on Verna Mullins and Margret Mullins.

Carolyn Mullins Pearson, Class of 65


April 9, 2011
Pirates,

While most of you know I been writing stories to leave our Grand Children not much has been said about Great Grand Children but, the lord has blessed Jackie and I with 4 Great Grand Children, all boys now age 4 to 9.

Accordingly, I have started doing things with them in mind and one was to see if I could get a copy of a safety movie I was involved with making over 41 years ago at Kennedy Space Center.

Surprisingly I was able to obtain a copy from KSC and they even converted it from the original 16 MM film to a digital format which allowed me to put it on a web page as well as incorporate it into a CD that contains my KSC Memoirs and about 500 pictures of the Apollo Moon Program that I put together strictly for the 4 boys. (Girls too when and if they come along)

If some of you have an interest in space and want to see some behind the scenes activities which are in the Safety Movie, you can do so by Clicking:..  HERE

The full movie runs about 25 minutes but, I also put together just the part I was involved with which only runs 5 to 6 minutes.

Keep in mind the movie is now approaching 42 years of existence and is not quite as bright as it once was.

E. Ray Smyth, Class of 53


April 9, 2011
Was that apollo 7 series era ?

Jackie Cox, Class of 62


April 9, 2011

Jackie, I'm not sure what your question is but, the Apollo Program to go to the moon used the Saturn V series of Saturn Rockets.

The Saturn 1B Series was used for the initial testing to put the Apollo Command Module and the Lunar Excursion Module in low earth orbit for checkout and testing but, it took the larger Saturn V to go to the moon.

The Saturn 1B launched from Complex 34 and 37 -- The Saturn V launched from Complex 39A and 39B

There are 70 pictures of the very first Saturn V to fly being put together at this link:..  HERE

E. Ray Smyth, Class of 53


April 10, 2011

I asked the question because being employeed at Standard Pressed Steel, Western Tool Division, headquarters, Jenkintown penn.

I was doing the manufacturing engineering-industrial engineering function of making the titanium fasteners used in assembling the Saturn Rocket, We imported the bar stock from seattle, where it was imported from canada,

The origin was russian, we machined the OD on a throughfeed centerless grinder, then molybednum coated it, and sent it through an hot forging upsetheading machine, and then through standard threading equipment, the tolerances were closer than normal threaded fasteners.

If I remember correctly it was in 68/69. They called the project appolo 7, but my memory may be fading, it may have been appolo V, Having worked on our A7 a-b-c programs at LTV aerospace in 67/68, between dallas and ft worth, Perhaps I confused the plane with the threaded fastener, ha ha ha.

I really enjoyed your movie production and a look at the liquid oxygen, and LNG facalities, WOW what an energy facility !

You must have had a ball working there for so many decades. I am saddened to see obama assigning an astronaunt as director, and undermining Shuttle 2, and Constellation, tossing the thousands of engineering manyears vested in thse projects, and privatizing low earth orbits to elon musK, watching the USA drop from 87 % of satallite launches to near 25 % and descending, in just 2 years, not to mention halving our fleet, and stalling F-35, I really am saddened to see our direction under obama/gates/bolten/panetta You must too be saddened to see lawyers managing NASA, etc etc rather than scientific management teams.

Whatever---there is little we can do about anything, and you are what 76 ? because I am 67---We can hope and pray, the children will still have the assets to recover.

Jacke Cox, Class of 62


April 11, 2011

I have this last reminder about the Homecoming meeting Monday night April 18th. If you want your ideas or suggestions to be considered, please e mail me (pppzips@att.net) or call me (325-514-2602). This event is for all Pirates and your input is needed and appreciated.

Thanks, Danny (Pete) Zips, Class of 62


April 11, 2011

Hey Pete -- Thanks for a; your organizing, Whatever you decide I will try and make it, I know Jan is planning on being there, Hopefully, Leonard, and Dolly.. Jeanette and BA, John should be there, if you twist his arm ha ha ha, Ada, Hopefully Carolyn, etc

Thanks again for organizing it for us and have a good summer.

Jackie Cox, Class of 62


April 11, 2011

Jackie, I never knew you worked at LTV. I was there 66- 68 while in College at Arlington State College. I built the heat shield for the return capsules and worked in air craft salvage to repair bullet holes and other damage to A 7s Corsairs and others. Small world

Chuck (Doug) Thomas, Class of 60


April 12, 2011
When is homecoming?

Jan Angel, Class of 62


April 12, 2011

The date will be decided April 18 at our meeting.

Danny (Pete) Zips, Class of 62


April 12, 2011

At LTV My projects were industrial engineering assignments, I didn't spend a lot of time in the plant, Econmic Justification , Data Development, Plane Scheduling, Hey we were really turning out a lot of A-7's, the planes have come a long way, hopefully the F-35's will get back on schedule, LTV was a great place to work.

I went to Texas to setup the Industrial Engineering Scheduling, and Time Keeping sector for a division of Texstar Corporation where we made the astronaunt helments for NASA, The division I worked in was the tube and fin coil company, making exchangers, and condensers for the heating, refrigeration industry, we were a job shop, the project took almost a year, from there I went into LTV.

The next place I worked was in the worlds largest bottle/can equipment processing company, Geo. Meyer in Cudahy Wi.

Most of the 14 companies I did projects for, with a couple of industrial engineering consulting firms are now closed.

The country was dotted with engineering design manufacturing companies before I was out of country from 72 to 94, Upon my return I was sadded to see the end of americas manufacturing infrastructure---Imagine--- we used to make in america what we consumed.

Then as I understand it, the political arena under reagan removed the import taxation sector that discouraged slavery and was proactive american technology and domestic jobs.

The chinese slavery pay the 200 million workers less than 32 african workers, and treats them horribly, Walmart works 200 of 350 jobs 24 hour weeks, americas largest employeer.

Microsoft have one electronics company in china with 820,000 chinese slaves, and gets their programming done in india for 300 dollars a month, thats not much money in these times.

America's other sector missing left with the manufacturing complex, the small family businesses that supplied our communities with goods and services. In those times the USA made 55 % of the worlds durable goods and exported more than the rest of the world,We had more jobs than people. I sincerely hope we get a government to resurrect the import taxation, which would help preserve american independence, and restore our domestic jobs.

LTV paid good, even back in the 60's---those were the good old times---these are the new times.

Anyway nice hearing from you, the last time I heard from you you were going to Ranger junior college that was in the late 50's or the early 60's

Jackie Cox, Class of 62


April 12, 2011
Pirates,

We can welcome Billie "Sanders": Hargrove, Class of 48 to the Chat Line.

E. Ray Smyth, Class of 53


April 15, 2011

Danny Zips, told me of an obituary for Lily Mae Tyler age 75 being in the Abilene Reporter News today and was asking if I remembered her because she had graduated from Lueders. Sadly I do not remember her but, here is her obit.

E. Ray Smyth, Class of 53

April 16, 2011

Lily Mae Gardner graduated from Lueders in 1959. She rode the Nugent bus and lived on the old Reynolds place 2 miles north west of Nugent. I don't think I ever saw her when she was not smiling.

Chuck (Doug) Thomas, Class of 60


April 16, 2011
Pirates,

As you're aware, the recent First Baptist Church picture sent to us by Gloria Verble generated a lot of attention.

Some may dis-agree but, I think it has been pretty well accepted that the picture was made on Mother's Day of 1973 based on several women wearing corsages and knowing the age of certain babies in the picture.

I am happy to now tell you that thanks to a super effort by Carolyn "Mullins" Pearson, Class of 65 and her husband Wes, most all people in the picture have been identified.

While Carolyn coordinated the effort and did the leg work, my gratitude goes to her husband Wes who took the time to code the HTML table which allowed me the only task of inserting it into the web page coding.

Carolyn did a lot of telephoning to obtain names and who she contacted or who contacted her, I don't know.

Joey Morris Class of 78 did send me some names but, I passed that message off to Carolyn and she took care of it..

So, I am going to let Carolyn jump in and tell us who all contributed to the identification of people.

It was also hubby Wes who came up with the idea to place people in a grid for identification according to grid number and that worked out great.

I have now placed the web page on the school web site in the "Collection of Wayne Verble, Class of 53" in "Memories in SnapShot" section which is under the main home page link of "School Memories"

But, a direct link to that page is:...   HERE

Again, My Personal Thanks to Carolyn and Wes because they made my part of the naming job very easy.

E. Ray Smyth, Class of 53


April 17, 2011

Thanks to all those who contributed names for the Lueders First Baptist Church 1973 picture. Those who gave names through the chat-line we thank most because they gave us the inspiration to continue the task. Four remaining unknown out of 156 is not bad for this many years later!

Special thanks goes to Maxine Wyatt and Joyce Rose who are in the picture and still living in the Lueders area. Carol Felts, Ramona Mullins Hamilton, Cynthia Newsom, Arla Felts, Glenda Mullins, Joey Rose, and Russell Mullins also helped.

If you know any of the unknown folks, please help us identify them. If you disagree with any of them, please let that be known.

This was the best jigsaw puzzle ever worked!

Carolyn "Mullins" Pearson, Class of 65


April 17, 2011

Sandra Reves, Are you sister-in law of Peggy Reves? We were best friends I'm school and roommates at Hardin Simmons.

Jeanne Buntin Cours, Class of 1966


April 18, 2011

Marion Stapp Horton (1941 graduate of Lueders High School) passed away in Irvine, California, on April 16, 2011.

She had suffered from Alzheimer's Disease for years. Marion attended the Lueders homecomings until she became ill.

If you remember her at all, you will remember the plays she starred in under the direction of Catherine Robinson and Sarah Nell Rives.

In later life she wrote books. The last one Growing Like a Weed which was her description of growing up in Lueders. She also wrote a book on the Jewish religion after spending many years researching the subject.

A memorial service will be held on May 15 at Pepperdine University in Irvine. (This information was supplied by Winnie Stapp Barton, Marion's sister.)


April 19, 2011
Hi Pirates

We had a GREAT meeting with lots of things accomplished, a full report will be posted later today. We had lots of new people attend the meeting and they all added good ideas for us....tks

Danny "Pete" Zips, Class of 62


April 19, 2011

Here is a summary of your Homecoming meeting:

DATE
Oct 1 2011, registration at 9 am, coffee and donuts will be available, business meeting at 11 am, lunch around 12:30 and program about 2pm. Registration will be inside the auditorium so the bottle neck of people at the front door will be prevented.

PROGRAM
Besides the Hall of Fame presentation, our own Don Ralph Smyth (Class of 1960) will entertain us with his music. We will honor the 50 year reunion of the 1960 class and the 1961 class, will name a Coming Home King and Queen, introduce the cheerleaders, the football team, introduce classes, oldest person attending and the person who traveled the most miles.

HALL OF FAME
Nominations for the Hall of Fame must reach me by July 23 2011. Send your resume to me at P O Box 66 Anson Tx 79501 or e mail me at pppzips@att.net DO NOT PUT THE RESUME ON THE CHAT LINE. You may start sending them now, don't push the July 23 date, the mail is not always on time. We will have another meeting to see who goes into the Hall of Fame this year and I will see that all members voting on the Hall of Fame will have a copy of all resumes. Remember it's School, Community, Church and Country for your nominations.

FRIDAY NIGHT PARTY
The party on Friday night known as the 50's party ( it is aimed at anyone who wants to attend, all Pirates are invitited) will be held at the Ball Ranch just south of the Abilene Regional Hospital, you will receive directions in a letter. If you want to look at the Ball Ranch just go on the internet at Ball Ranch Abilene Texas. Their dining room will hold around 200 people and the Ball family will provide intertainment after the dinner, they do a really great job and I think you will be pleased.

FINANCE
Bond..........................$2,079.66
Regular account..........$1,571.40
Scholarship.................$1,198.50

Attending the meeting: Danny Zips, Mary Ann (Moore) Bauernfeind, Roger Bauernfeind, Pete Moore, Jeanette (Moore) Honey, B A Honey, Jane Scoot, Eith Ham, Ada Wills, Marjorie Thomas, Thurman Thomas, Rosemary (Oman) Edwards, Lottie (Purcell) Doty, Latisha Smith(Ada's daughter).

Your letters will be arriving soon, if you talk to any Pirates please let them know the dates of all the events.

One add note, we are still trying to get a football game but it does not look good however the Superintendent is still looking into finding a team.

Danny "Pete" Zips, Class of 62

PS: I slept thru a lot of Spelling and English classes, try not to be to critical...


April 20, 2011

I would like to have Glenn and Peggy More's address if anyone has it. If you do please give it to me.

Thanks, Mary Lou Odell Bavousett, Class of 51


April 20, 2011
Mary,

They are not on the Chat Line and I looked at all the other list I have and I do not have their address.

Don Latimer may have to jump in here and do his usual detective work. I'm also having a memory lapse because at the moment I can't recall Peggy's maiden name.

E. Ray Smyth, Class of 53


April 20, 2011

Peggy was Peggy Patton. They lived in Carlsbad, NM and retired, was the last I knew.

Mary Lou Odell Bavousett, Class of 51


April 20, 2011

Mary, if you will go to the web site of http://www.anywho.com and on the right side of the page type in Glen Moore and the city and state you should retrieve the web page partly shown here. I called the 575-885-???? number and got no answer but, did get an answer machine so left a message and asked if they were the Moore's from Lueders, Texas to please give me a call. I didn't call the bottom 2 -- I thought I would try them again later today. (Web Page and phone number not shown on this Archieved page for private reason)

E. Ray Smyth, Class of 53


April 20, 2011

When we had our 50th class reunion they were living in Carlsbad, NM.. As I recall, her maiden name was Patton.

Gerrell Moore, Class of 1952


April 20, 2011

That is correct. Gerrell, but when they retired they moved to a different address than where they were, is my understanding. Patton is correct, too.

Thanks, Mary Lou Odell Bavousett, Class of 51


April 20, 2011

E.Ray ... I am forwarding your information requestion about Peggy & Glen Moore to them. You should hear from them shortly.

Billy Patton, Class of 57


April 20, 2011
Pete,

I really appreciate your setting Oct 1st for homecoming. You are on top of things and it's always good to start planning early. Roger and I will be willing to do as much as we can to make this a very memorable homecoming.

Thanks again, Mary Ann, Class of ??


April 20, 2011

Thanks, I went to Avoca today and visited with Sandra Reves on the scholarship for a senior (they have 8 and she said all but one was going to school somewhere), she will print off the applications and make them due by May 20th.

Danny "Pete" Zips, Class of 62


April 21, 2011
Pirates,

As a result of Mary Lou's inquiry, We can now welcome Glen Moore, Class of 52 and Peggy "Patton" Moore, Class of 51 to the Pirate Chat Line.

I missed Glen but, did have a nice conversation with Peggy this afternoon. They are doing well in Carlsbad, NM and have 9 grand children and 4 great grand children.

E. Ray Smyth, Class of 53


April 21, 2011

Hello there to all Luederspirates from Glen and Peggy (Patton) Moore, class of 1952 and class of 1951.

Sure glad someone looked us up. We had no idea that this was going on. We live in Carlsbad, NM, been here for about 35 years.

We raised 5 children, 4 still living. 8 grandchildren and 10 great grands. Three of our children live here in Carlsbad and our oldest daughter lives in Amarillo, Tx.

Glen is still working. He had his own car lot for about 25 years and closed that down but wasn't ready to retire, so he works for the church as janitor (he got his training from Charlie at Lueders School) and of course he buys and sells cars also.

I am retired from Lakeview Christian Home after 30 years. Now I have garage sales for different people in town. They keep me pretty busy. We are both in good health, so thankful.

Let us hear from all of you that knew us in school.

Peggy "Patton" Moore, Class of 51 and Glen Moore, Class of 52


April 21, 2011

I remember the entire patton family with fondness and the utmost respect, you are a family who gets up each day in an effort to do the right things.

May the holy spirit of truth be the wind in your sail.

Jackie Cox, Class of 62


April 22, 2011
Subject: Texas Wildfire Photos

Photos of Texas Wild Fires are:..   HERE

Ramona "Mullins" Hamilton, Class of 54


April 23, 2011

Ramona's posting of the link which showed the Texas fires got me to wondering how many Pirates have ended up living their lives in other states.

Since I keep the chat line database information in separate columns, it was easy for me to do a sort on state and it shows 18 out of the 118 Pirates on the Chat Line living in the following states.

1 in Arkansas
1 in Arizona
4 in California
1 in Colorado
2 in Florida
1 in Idaho
1 in Kansas
1 in Kentucky
1 in Louisianian
1 in Michigan
1 in New Mexico
1 in Oregon
1 in South Carolina
1 in Tennessee

Now this information and $2.00 might buy you a cup of coffee but, I was thankful for Ramona's posting because it provided us out of stater's with a better perspective of what is going on in our native state then does the tidbit of TV news we have been getting here in Florida.

ByTheWay, in case some of you other out of stater's have missed it, what I miss about Good Old Texas has been told at the link:...   HERE       What do you miss if anything??

Thanks Ramona, E. Ray Smyth, Class of 53


April 23, 2011

I do not recall a firestorm near the intensity or the current burnings, and wonder what element terrorists have, if any ?

Jackie Cox, Class of 62


April 23, 2011

Jackie, I will tell you a short story best I can recall which believe it or not involves your father when you was a little bitty boy.

In the late 40's, Texas experienced similar fires and the one I recall started about 3/4 of a mile due East of the Post Oak School on the Bluff Creek Ranch.

The fire got started one afternoon and the wind was carrying it on east through the Bluff Creek Ranch towards Albany.

We heard about it in town and since it was in the area where my dad pumped the J. P. Vickers oil lease, my father and I went out to see about it in our 1947 Jeep. So, this had to be after 1947.

Another time marker for the period was the dark green 1947 or 48 Ford flatbed truck your father, Red Cox owned which had to be reasonably new at the time. I figure it to be new because I was there and remember when your father made the statement the only time that truck of his was every really used was the night they fought the fire half way to Albany when he ran the truck up and down gullies and hills fighting the fire.

Another part of the story is when the fire was just starting and real small there west of the J. P. Vickers lease, Jack Felts had been on his way to delivery a load of gas in the Bluff Creek when he saw the fire off to the north of the road, he stopped his truck and started fighting the fire all by himself.

Then a couple of guys came by and seen Jack out there by himself and one got out and went to helping Jack with the fire while the other guy came to town to get help.

By the time me and my Dad got out there others had arrived and we went to the road intersection where the road goes back out to the Albany highway but, we went north on the road and the guys set a back fire on the west side of the road hoping to open up a wide enough gap to keep the fire from jumping the road.

But, the fire jumped the road any way and headed on towards Albany. At that point the guys knew it was going to be a long night and my Dad came to town to get tow sacks and a tub of water and left me home and then went back out.

I think practically all of the Lueders men fought that fire most all night and your father was right in the middle of all of it with that green truck. It was a simply grass prairie fire and they fought the fire by beating out the fire line with wet tow sacks. Of course other things occurred when the fire reached a clump of trees

That summer it was simply dry and hot and some thought that perhaps the fires were getting started by the sun shinning through the bottom of a bottle much like kids will set fire to paper using a magnifying glass and the sun.

Not much too my story except it did involve something about your dad in a memory of mine.

Also reminds me of how men were in those days such as Jack Felts being out there fighting the fire all by himself trying to do what was right and not thinking of only himself as it is now days.

E. Ray Smyth, Class of 53


April 23, 2011

Thanks for sending these pictures. It helps those that lived in the areas know what it was like in the area they use to live or live close to now.

Mary Lou Odell Bavousett, Class of 51


April 23, 2011

One summer about 1950 (plus or minus a couple of years) while I lived in Lueders, I remember setting in our yard at night and watching a wildfire near Albany. We seldom saw the flames, but the glow lit the night sky for more than a week.

The sight was nothing to compare with the first picture on the link Ramona sent.

D. W. Weeks, Class of 57


April 23, 2011

Those pictures are indeed incredible. I remember seeing the glow of that fire you were talking about but I thought it was in the schinnery. I also thought we were perfectly safe since the river was between us and the fire. Little did I know a good wind could have swept it right across the Clear Fork. Isn't it about fifty feet wide?

Judy McGonagill, Class of 60


April 23, 2011
Hello Peggy & Glen,

I do remember you both but we only overlapped a year or two. I didn't move to the Lueders area until the summer of 1950. I was in the class of 56, so I knew your younger brothers well.

Peggy, we rode the same bus. While I went to school in Lueders, we had three bus routes.There was the Berryhill Bus, the Nugent Bus, and "our" bus. I'm not sure what we called our bus route so maybe you can help me out with a name. Of course I think the Swenson school consolidated with Lueders about 1950 so maybe it was call the Swenson bus.

My younger brothers keep asking me what the name of our route was and I haven't come up with an answer yet.

We lived on the Commons oil lease about slix miles southwest of Lueders and were on the end of the route, so we kinda got to sleep-in in the morning, but it took us a long time to get home in the evening.

Anyway, welcome to the chat line.

Don Latimer - Class of 56.


April 23, 2011

Those were great pictures. I didn't recall the grass fire about 1950 so I looked it up.

The grass fire started Tuesday afternoon January 16, 1951. They thought it started around the Bud Mattherws switch which is three or four miles west of the Abilene - Stamford fork on highway 180.

The glow was plainly visible in Abilene Tuesday night. The fire was about five to ten miles wide and consumed some 50 sections of land. The last flames were put out around midnight Wednesday night.

Don Latimer - Class of 56


April 23, 2011

What I wonder about is the Wind Farms in West Texas. How is the fire affecting them if at all?

Jim Fitzgerald, Class of 54


April 23, 2011
Hi E. R. Jr,

Thanks for sharing your memory, from a time, too early for me, however I recall the trucks, cattle, horses, chickens, goats, pigs, donkeys, farms, ranches, etc.

The photo you sent me of the calf, my Dad, and Mr. Limburgh, the 4-H county agent, around the time of my dads death, actually its the only photo I have of him. Thank You very much

-Still the 1,000,000 acres burned, equates into near 1,600 square miles, or sections of land. I remember the fires when it got dry, when the community came together and handled the fires like you described it.

I wonder if the communities still do that ? To some extent, the loss of more organized communities may hold some responsibility, but such a magnitude of fires is bizarre positive elements, some botanical species require fire for germination, and when some species starve out others the fires help restore a more balanced natural environment.

On the same theme. Is it my imagination, or have new generations of pesticides, which integrate into the genetic structure of vegation, responsible for loss of insects, missing bird population in many areas of our country ? I miss the birds, bees, butterflys, and even grass hoppers. In the 70's , 80's when we visited FL, going into swamps, like the everglades was accompanied by baths with skin-so-soft (avon) helping to evade the massive number of insects, now gone.

Perhaps its just cynicism, possibly with justification ? The closer we look, the more unanswered questions arise ?

Thanks again for the memory of our olden times. I went into your area a few times over the years watching a few launches, NASA designed, exacuted, the scientific advancements originating from NASA is/was at the leading edge of our understanding of reality.

You spent your life on that team, the lueders hall of fame may be at a lower magnitude of appreciation for such contributions.

I think of hubble/chandra/mars rover/shuttles 1 and 2, constellation etc etc and can imagine the hundreds of thousands of engineering manyears which went into the worlds first real astrophysical exploration, cassena having left our suns magnetosphere as we have calculated it to be, still traveing and communicating---It saddens me to see the current administrations changeup, at NASA, with disbarred lawyers and astronaunts now making the decisions, as opposed to integrated scientific management teams. and wonder what the future really holds.

Whatever, its been a fantastic time to have existed on earth, thankful for each day, quite frankly, look forward to the next phase.

Thanks again for reminding me of my family, a different place in time, one when our christian nation was no doubt led by the holy spirit of truth into the new age of instrumentation, where borders and cultures, are fragmenting, as the world joins in the information revolution, Our youth and scientific communities joining in the search for real truths. Hopefully to a better place in time than we are presently experiencing.

Jackie Cox, Class of 62


April 23, 2011

Recently visiting the dam, I noticed a few places I could walk across, without getting my feet wet, (Good swamp boots) several feet wide. However, Lueders people are still a community with respect and would all volunteer in ending prairie fires threatening Lueders, unless the winds were too great

Jackie Cox, Class of 62


April 29, 2011
Pirates,

Bill Glenn Attended school in Lueders for a year or two and maybe graduated from there. His obituary states he met his wife, Billie Ann Edgar, at Lueders High School in 1947.

Name: BILL GLENN

Dates:
Birth date: May 10, 1930
Death date: April 07, 2011

Obituary:

Bill Glenn, age 80 of Albany, died Thursday, April 7, 2011, at his residence. Funeral services will be held at 2 p.m., Saturday, April 9th, at First Baptist Church with Rev. Bart Burgess officiating. Interment will follow in the Albany Cemetery under the direction of Morehart Mortuary. Visitation will be held Friday evening, April 8th, from 6 to 8 p.m. at Morehart Mortuary of Albany.

Bill Louis Glenn was born on May 10, 1930 in Graham, Texas to parents, Henry Dee Glenn and Dorothy Dale Humphrey Glenn.

He and Billie Ann Edgar met in 1947 at Lueders High School and were married on November 26, 1950, at the First Baptist Church of Albany. They lived in Tuxedo and Baird before moving to Albany in 1956.

In 1995, Bill retired from Jones Company after 45 years of service. He was a member of First Baptist Church of Albany. Bill was a loving husband to Billie for sixty wonderful years. He was a caring and loving "Dad" to his sons and daughter, as well as "Pepaw" to his grandchildren, great grandchildren and all of their friends. Bill was preceded in death by his parents.

Bill is survived by his wife, Billie of Albany; children, Ronnie Glenn and wife, Pam of Amarillo, Donnie Glenn and wife, Donna of Sherman and Deidra Day and husband, Clifton of Weatherford; ten grandchildren, Kari Snow, Jarrod McBride and wife, Merydith, Whitney Duffy and husband, Matt, Daniel Glenn, David Glenn, Katie Glenn, Misty Joaquin and husband, Jon, Justin Wolf, Brandon Day and wife, Shay and Jacob Day and wife, Jennifer; one sister, Bunny McElyea and husband, Jim of Chandler; brother-in-law, David Edgar and wife, Carolyn of Sugarland; sister-in-law, Jana Smith and husband, Mike of Athens; seven great grandchildren and many nephews and nieces.

Don Latimer - Class of 56


April 29, 2011

My deepest sympathy to Billie Ann and all of the family.

Billie Ann and I were in the class of 49.

Sylvia "Weeks" Precious. Class of 49


April 29, 2011

Don, do you have an address for Billie Ann so we can send her a card. Edith Raughton Atkison, Class of 53


April 30, 2011
Edith,

I have her street address but if my memory is correct most people in Albany get their mail thru a post office box. I know my mother DID and both my nephews that lived there also had post office boxes for mailing addresses.

I did call Billie Ann and left a message. I also sent an e-mail and left a phone message with her brother David, class of 57.

If I get her mailing address, I'll let you know.

Don Latimer - Class of 56


April 30, 2011
Pirates,

I talked with Coleen Glenn McElyea, sister of Bill Glenn and obtained Billie Ann Edgar Glenn's mailing address.

It's:

Billie Glenn P.O. Box XXXX Not Shown for Private reasons Albany, Tx 76430

Don Latimer - Class of 56


April 30, 2011
Don, thank you so much.

Edith Raughton Atkison, Class of 53


April 30, 2011
Pirates,

I thought would post the following e-mail I received from Alice Thomas Backus.

The Jones county Fish Fry at Lueders is Tuesday at the American Legion.

Thanks Alice

I'd like to be there. I enjoyed the last one I attended.

Don Latimer - Class of 56


April 30, 2011

The annual Fish Day will be on Tuesday, May 3 at the American Legion Hall. Eating starts at 11:30 or a little before, usually. Come on out, bring a dish, and enjoy the visit.

Greta "Olson" Corbitt, Class of 52


April 30, 2011
Planning on it, if all goes well.

Mary Lou "Odell" Bavousett, Class of 51


May 1, 2011

Wouldn't you know I am substituting on Tuesday. One of these days though...........

Carol Ann "Felts" Petty, Class of 54


May 1, 2011
Pirates,

We can welcome Bobby Ray Atkison, Class of 49 to the Chat Line.

Other Class of 49 Members on the Chat Line are:.............................................

Orlan "Bo" Vaughan
Sylvia "Weeks" Precious
Bob Atkison

There is now 113 Pirates on the Chat Line -- which is Most Ever

Cheers, E, Ray Smyth, Class of 53


May 2, 2011
Ray, this has been so great good job

Sylvia "Weeks" Precious. Class of 49


May 2, 2011
Pirates,

Fredrick Lieb, Class of 51 has been reading the Chat Line Postings about Fish Day being tomorrow and thus he phoned me this evening and ask me to type up and post the story of how Fish Day started because he figured a lot of people didn't know and thought it a neat story appropriate for now.

Fredrick explained he was asking me to do it because the arthritis in his hands keep him from typing.

So, the following story is what I wrote from the notes I took down as Fredrick told me the story over the phone.

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A lot of you will recall that back in the late fifties outboard motors, Lone Star boats and going to the lake became a very popular past time and a great majority of Lueders people came to own boats and gather at the lake for fishing, water skiing and general fellowship among other Lueders people.

Fredrick could recall Jack Felts, Robert Sanders, Marshall White and E. R. Smyth among the many who had a boat rig.

During this period O. T. Shipp lost his wife and sometimes afterwards the town got to noticing that the drug store would be closed on certain days and thought it a little weird that Ruth Lee Mitchell's Beauty shop was always closed on the exact same day.

The mystery was solved one day when it was discovered O. T. and Ruth Lee were going Crappie fishing together at Lake Stamford.

Appears they had started a courtship and were trying to be as discrete and quite about it as possible.

Once their scheme and reason for their stores being closed was discovered it seems most all of Lueders was glad for them and the other merchants decided to close up their shops, take their boat rigs and join O. T and Ruth Lee at Lake Stamford for some Crappie fishing which then led to people taking their cookers along and all of Lueders having a Fish Fry with the fish they caught which then led to the annual Fish Day on the 1st Tuesday of each May at Lake Stamford.

Fredrick says after the Community Center was built in 1980 with people getting older, they decided rather then drive to Stamford Lake they should just buy fish and and have Fish Day at the Lueders Community Center.

Initially the Lueders Bank sponsored Fish Day and paid for the fish.

After the Lueders Bank was closed the First National Bank in Anson took over the sponsorship and has done so each year since.

At some point in time the event was moved from the Community Center to the American Legion Hall and thus Lueders Fish Day is tomorrow the 1st Tuesday in May of 2011.

Story courtesy of Fredrick Lieb, Class of 51 and wrote by E. Ray Smyth, Class of 53


May 3, 2011

Wish I could be there for the first time, but five hours between San Antonio and Lueders is the reason this year.

Mama and Papa Arrington along with Uncle Alfred fished at Stamford Lake two or three days a week; therefore, we had fish day at their home often.

Remember, fish is brain food, so enjoy, all of you who can be there. I even put Uncle Alred's fish day shirt on this morning, but, alas -- ! It's only 49 degrees this morning, so now I have my long sleeve Hardin-Simmons shirt on!

Have a great day! I remember working at the Lueders bank on fish day with Arlene Felts in 1965. The bank closed at noon.

Carolyn "Mullins" Pearson, Class of 65


May 3, 2011

If fish is brain food I must not have eaten enough.

Bob Atkison, Class of 49


May 4, 2011

As I understand the fire department was doing the fish day at the community center. When they no longer were able to sponsor the event the American Leigon Post 661 took over the responsibility and thus it was moved to the legion hall.

Ada "Crawford" Wills, Class of 61


May 4, 2011
Pirates,

We can welcome another Class of 49 member to the Chat Line -- 2 new 49ers in 1 week - Wonderful

Reba Gail "Meil" Davis just submitted the registration form because someone ask her to post a message on the Chat Line about the passing of Bill Glenn and of course you can not post a message on the Chat Line unless your Contact Info has been entered into the chat line system so Reba has just now registered.

Other Class of 49 Members on the Chat Line are:.............................................

Orlan "Bo" Vaughan
Sylvia "Weeks" Precious
Bob Atkison
Reba "Meil" Davis

There is now 114 Pirates on the Chat Line

Cheers, E, Ray Smyth, Class of 53


May 4, 2011
So very sorry to hear about Bill Glenn.

Bob Atkison, Class of 49


May 4, 2011

Bob, You and Reba both got on the chat line after Bill Glenn's Obituary was put on the Chat Line.

If you would like to read that posting go to this link and scroll down to the April 29th date which will be near the bottom of the page. http://www.luederspirates.com/2-s-mem/5-chat/11-2ndqt.html

I'll remind all Pirates we do our best to archive all the Chat Line messages and we do but, we sometimes get behind because it does take a lot of work and it is a very boring task.

But, one I am more then willing to do because it provides our children's children a glimpses into the past about the community where their mommy's and daddy's were raised.

So, happens I am currently pretty well up to date with the archiving and you can read all the messages since 2004 by, Clicking:...  HERE

E. Ray Smyth, Class of 53


May 6, 2011
Pirates,

I am not going to say much about the picture inserted below except to say Danny Zips sent it to me and it was taken during one of the Pirate's championship years.

I won't say because I want to sit back and watch the Pirates of that era have the fun of explaining the WHO-WHAT-WHEN-WHERE-WHY about the picture and besides I don't know that much about it myself.

E. Ray Smyth, Class of 53

May 6, 2011

I may have an old football program from that era. I'll see if I can find it and see if the numbers help me any. Seems to be a lot of numbers that end in five.

The only one right off that I'm sure of is John Hayton, the coach.

Don Latimer - Class of 56


May 6, 2011

I have sent E Ray an email putting names with the numbers. B A, Doug and couple of others should be able to put them together too............

Danny Zips, Class of 62


May 7, 2011

Don I can help you out a little. Coach Hayton, the profile behind Hayton I believe is B. A. Honey, #80 looks like Jimmy Youngquist all though in the team picture of 1959 he is # 77, # 65 is the late Richard Wills, #35 is Mike Courtney, #55 is Willie Jamar and # 75 is Chuck (Doug) Thomas. It appears to be one of the 1959 games. We were Regional Champs that year and District Champs the previous year.

Chuck (Doug) Thomas, Class of 60


May 7, 2011

Well Pete looks like you were 100% right about who just now we know who #35 is.

Ada "Crawford" Wills. Class of 61


May 7, 2011
Thanks Chuck,

I never would have figured it out. I didn't find the football program that I just saw a few weeks ago.

I noticed that the team piclture in the annual is made with white jerseys and this game picture is with black jerseys, so maybe the difference in numbers is because you didn't have the exact same numbers in both colors.

There's a number 55 (it looks like) sitting on the bench.

The 1955 football team had white jerseys for awhile but we played a game on a muddy field and could never get the red mud out of the jerseys and had to go back to the black and gold.

I'm sure they had to buy new jerseys the next season after a few turned up missing at the end of the year, although I've heard that the 56 team didn't have too many players.

Don Latimer - Class of 56


May 7, 2011
#55 is Willie Jamar

Danny Zips, Class of 62


May 8, 2011

Danny Zips had told me the football pictures was made in 1959 and then Chuck Thomas said it looked like 1959.

This message from Don Latimer mentioned his looking in the Annual and the team picture showed white jerseys.

I got to wondering what we had on the web site for the Class of 59 and darn there was a Team Picture that had been provided by Pat "Culpepper" Roberts, Class of 61 a few years back so anyone wanting to view what is probably the same picture Don refers to may be viewed by, Clicking:...   HERE

E. Ray Smyth, Class of 53


May 8, 2011

I miss Richard Wills, He was my friend all the days of his life. We always had a lot of fun growing up together. Its fun to see some of the kids Who grew up together, thanks for posting the photo.

Jackie Cox, Class of 62


May 10, 2011

Hi Pete, I will try and make it to the ball ranch, thanks for your efforts to keep us in touch with the rest of our litter ha ha ha

Jackie Cox, Class of 62


May 11, 2011

And who votes on this so called HALL oF Fame???? And who elected them???? I get a big laugh out of it.

Winnie "Stapp" Burton, Class of 40


May 12, 2011

To all of you who attended Fish Day, how about a report on who all was there and how many were there. I haven't seen anything about it on the chatline.

Don Latimer - Class of 56


May 12, 2011

I was there and we had good food along with the good fish. Greta and her group played good music. Her husband, Frank, too. Rena Dell McAlister Potter and sisters were there. Edith and Buddy were working, along with Sheridan, David and Joyce Orson. Saw Pete and Gerald Moore. Albert Wilhite, Dorothy Bennett, Bill and Betty McClenden, Mary Alice V, and a number of others that I can't think of now. I apologize if I misspelled any names.

Mary Lou "Odell" Bavousett, Class of 51


May 12, 2011

I didn't mean to leave Rena's husband out but Robert was there,too.

Mary Lou "Odell" Bavousett, Class of 51


May 12, 2011

Don we served over 200 people I was helping serve but I cannot start to name all the people that came through the line. I recognized many faces but cannot put a name to them.

I suggested that next year we maybe put a guest register so people can sign in, and maybe make comments about if it is their first or 50th time to be there. As usual we had the postal cancelation for the day, which actually last till the 31 of this month.

You can get a letter cancelled with the fish day stamp. or you can buy an envelope with the cancellation on it. These may also be purchased by mail from the PO the way I understand it just send the cost and a self addressed envelop with a letter requesting it to the postmaster. Well enough of my rattling.

Hope to see many of you there next year.

Ada "Crawford" Wills, Class of 61


May 14, 2011
Pirates,

I had ran across an old football program the other day. Weinert Bulldogs versus the Lueders Pirates.

There was no date on the program but you could look at the players and figure out it was the 1958 season.

I didn't know who won the game but knew that Lueders won district that year so I decided to look it up in the Newspaper archives.

I was a little disappointed because it was a bi-district playoff game and Lueders lost. I went ahead and copied the article and it's printed below.

The game was played in Haskell Nov 21, 1958

Abilene Reporter News - Saturday November 22, 1958
Weinert Outraces Lueders 77-40

Haskell (RNS) - Weinert blasted Lueders 77-40 here Friday night in Six-Man bi-district play.

Weinert pushed its season record to 11-0 and will play the winner of the Miami-Cotton Center game played at Hale Center.

Weinert jumped out to a 28-0 first period lead and was never pushed. Weinert made 377 yards total offense and completed 10 of 22 aerials. Lueders made 290 yards total gain and completed nine of 28 passes. Lueders wound up the season with an 8-3 mark. W. J. Swanner made four touchdowns for Weinert and passed for three more. In the big first period he made touchdown runs of 10 and three yards. He passed to Bob Raynes for 35 yards and a TD and threw to Jerry King for a 45 yard scoring thrust. Raynes kicked extras points after Swanner’s scoring runs.

Lueders outscored Weinert 21-14 in the second quarter but had too far to go. Gary Berryhill passed to B. A. Honey for 20 yards and a Pirate TD and threw to Wayne Cox for a nine yard scoring play. Honey ran 10 yards for the third Lueders TD. Lueders trapped Jimmy White behind the goal line for a safety and Junior Reves ran an extra point to end second period scoring.

Swanner ran six yards for a Weinert TD and Elmer Adams skirted right end for five yards and a Weinert score. White kicked two extra points after Adams score to make the halftime score 42-21 in favor of Weinert.

In the third period Weinert held Lueders scoreless while Weinert made three TD’s. Swanner passed to King for 26 yards and a TD and ran 19 yards for a score after which Raynes kicked two extra points. David Boykin took a lateral from Raynes and passed 29 yards for a score to Jerry Walker. Walker reversed the procedure by pitching to Boykin for the extra point.

Lueders scored in the fourth quarter on two scoring runs by Berryhill and a Berryhill - Honey scoring pass. Berryhill went seven yards and one yard for his scores and threw 22 yards to Honey. Berryhill passed to Winston Burkman for the extra point.

Weinert finished up scoring on a Bill Rainey to Joe Williamson shot good for nine yards and a TD and a 50 yard Rainey TD scamper. Raynes kicked two extra points.

Don Latimer - Class of 56


May 14, 2011
Pirates,

My brother, Don sent me a picture of our sister Eileen and the 1947 Jeep we had asking me some family details and one of the things he asked about was the rock house shown in the picture because he has no memory of it being there.

I am putting the picture on the chat line because I can no longer recall who lived in the rock house but, I do remember several years ago someone on the chat line writing about the 2 or 3 trails that ran through the weeds across the rail road tracks from town to the area of Red and Arlene Felts house to our house and on down to the rock house.

My memory vaguely tells me they were writing about the trails because they used the trails to visit their grand father who lived in the rock house behind our house. At least that is my memory of their chat line message

Here's the picture that shows part of the rock house my brother is asking about:......

Donnie thought the boy was me and I told him is had to be him and I am pretty sure the picture was made in the spring of 1948 because I blew up the license plate and it is 1947 and we always did spring time clean up and the tree has no leaves indicating it was close to a winter time period.

E. Ray Smyth, Class of 53


May 15, 2011

I first thought it was the Watkins house but I know you remember them. I see the football lights behind the house so it was East of your house. I believe it was the Nelson house. I'll think some more because there was a girl just older than us who lived there and I can't dredge up the name.

Carol Felts, Class of 53


May 16, 2011

Are you sure the house is east of the Smyth house. I always thought the smyth house and our house faced east.

I am probably turned around though. Daddy (Fred Hines) bought the Rupert Compton house on the corner where you turned to go to Smyths and Red and Arlenes's house in about 1945.

He bought it the year before I started to school and I started to school in 1946.

There was a little blind man that used the trail that crossed reds and Arlenes and came down across the vacant area betwen us and Mrs Murray's.

Daddy fenced the area off for a garden and then the man went down an alley between our house and the Crows.

Remember before the Crows moved that house in it was a street.

Doris and Sandy's house was not even there yet. It seems to me that not very long after that the little man moved away and I don't remember if any one lived in that house after that.

It seems to me he did have a daughter, but I don't know if I ever knew her name. The trail went behind the Lawrence house, up the alley between the Reids and Bragg house, around the Wilhite house and crossed the road in front of the Walls house, across by the depot and railroad tracts and to town.

I made many a trip along that trail to Mr Parkers grocery store for Mother. When we first moved into that house we still had to play football in the afternoon because there were no lights at the football field. Didn't the Goins live in a house real near the rock house?

Maybe this will help bring back more memories. I remember the house. It was just across the fence from the football field.

Sharon "Hines" Hudsn, Class of 57- WF High


May 164, 2011

I THOUGHT THE FOOT BALL FIELD WAS WEST OF THE SMYTH HOUSE OR DID IT MOVE LATER?

ADA "CRAWFORD" WILLS, CLASS OF 61


May 16, 2011

That was the name I was trying so hard to come up with. Minny Goins rode her dads wagon up that little road. He hauled cotton seed for the gins. I rode with him several times.

Carol Felts, Class of 53


May 16, 2011

My memory is slowly returning! I meant West when I said East and Mr. Goins hauled cotton burs from the gin to spread on the fields north of town.

He had an inverted V in his wagon and we just sat on top of that and kicked the burs out on the fields.

Carol Felts, Class of 53


May 16, 2011

Yes, Carol, I knew that you meant to say "west" instead of east. They spelled their name Goynes--Minnie Goynes. I remember her--she had red hair. But I don't remember what class she was in. Must have been before 1950.

Ramona "Mullins" Hamilton, Class of 54


May 17, 2011

OK Ray, you got me on the rock house. I did not move to Luders until 1950. It looks to me like the picture was taken, by the shadows around 1:00pm in the winter months. And yes, it is Donnie in the picture, Ray was always much larger, even much larger than his buddy Max

The jeep is on the N. side of the Smyth house facing E. If you will look there is an all weather road to the right of the house and the lights of the foot ball field in the background. I remember a communication tower on the hill W. of town, that is faintly visible. That makes it the front of the Latimer house and not a rock house but brick.

Lee Bledsoe, Class of 54


May 17, 2011
Pirates,

Her name was Minnie Mary Goyne, born 6 Jan 1933 and I have her in the class of '51. Don't know right off if she graduated with that class.

Her father was Arthur Henton Goyne, born 14 Oct 1883 and died 3 Feb 1965. Her mother was Mamie Elizabeth Philley, born 16 Feb 1898 and died 8 Mar 1956. They're both buried in the Lueders Clearfork Cemetery.

Minnie was the youngest child, but she had some older brothers who also lived in Lueders.

Don Latimer - Class of 56


May 17, 2011
Pirates,

Minnie Goyne did graduate with the class of '51 May 22, 1951. Minnie was Valedictorian of the class and Betty Armstrong was Salutatorian.

Minnie married Alex Spicer of Abilene Aug 14, 1953. The lived in San Angelo when her mother died and I believe lives in San Antonio now.

Don Latimer - Class of 56


May 18, 2011

Minnie was in my class and she did graduate with me. She now lives in San Antonio. I do correspond or e-mail with her at times. One, if not more, of her brothers have been to Homecoming.

Mary Lou "Odell" Bavousett, Class of 51


May 18, 2011

Minnie's oldest son Jim Bob Goyne was in our class. He did not grauduate in Lueders, however.

Carolyn "Mullins" Pearson, Class of 65


May 18, 2011

Jim Bob Goyne wasn't Minnie's son but her nephew. Jim Bob's father was Robert James Goyne, brother of Minnie Goyne. Jim Bob's younger brother Clyde was in the class of 67.

Jim Bob was born 31 Dec 1946 in Lueders and died 25 Jan 1990 in Royal City, Washington.

Don Latimer - Class of 56


May 18, 2011

The Goyne's lived in a white wooden house that was down behind our house and slightly south.

A road ran east and west from the street in front of our house towards the football field and met up with a seldom used road that ran north and south immediately east of the football field.

The white wooden house where the Goynes lived was on the south side of this road and the small rock house that was the start of this chat line subject was on the north side of this road which put it behind the property of our house but, a little to the south of where our house actually stood.

The red brick house of the Latimers was on the road running east and west North of the football field. When Vinten added the garage and addition on to the back of the house he stuccoed it all white.

I finally got smart and remembered the 1985 aerials which shows the locations and houses we are speaking of and here it is after I add text to indicate how I remember it. The house immediately south of our house was not there when we lived in Lueders and I have no knowledge of who lives there now.

To see all the 1985 aerial photos of Lueders, Click:...   HERE

A lot has now been said about the Goynes so, let me also remind our Pirates that I wrote a story I named "The Snow of 47 and Birth of a Baby" which is about the Goynes and the fact they lived in the house south and behind us and as it turned out I only learned the baby was Jim Bob Goyne after I wrote the story which may be read by, Clicking:...   HERE

Incidentally the tree you are seeing behind the jeep is where all the Smyth family pets were buried and they completely surround the tree except on the fence side.

Daddy had gotten too old when Jumbo the big black and white collie died and I had an oilfield injury with 2 broken fingers on my right hand when one of my Collies died and we both owe a debt of gratitude to Wayne Cox because on both occasion we went and got Wayne to dig the graves next to the tree. I counted and from dogs to parakeets to rabbits there are 11 pet graves surrounding that tree.

"GranPa and The Dogs" is another story for the grankids and it names the animals buried around this tree and in case anyone cares to read it since it does tell about all the Lueders dogs which some of you will recall. it may be read by, Clicking:...  HERE

E. Ray Smyth, Class of 53


May 18, 2011

Thanks for the correction about Jim Bob's daddy and aunt. Mother Margret Mullins bought the Newsom house and moved back to Lueders in 1989. She passed away Christmas Eve, 2001. So Russell rents this house.

Carolyn "Mullins" Pearson, Class of 65


May 18, 2011

The little house escapes my memory, will be visiting Wayne Cox in a few weeks, and will show him your emails. the part about pet burials will make him happy, He has no computer, but likes Google Maps, hooked up to an oxygen machine, he has finally quit smoking, and seems recently stabilized, when Harry Garvin passed away he wanted to go to the funeral, but, became sick, and had to rest, so I went alone, when I got back to his house in eastland he was still pretty sick. those cigarets almost killed him.

I remember Wayne Roughten, a bit older than I, The Watkins drug store, ice cream floats, the latimers, etc--- Red Felts, Mr Putnam was partners with my dad in the cattle business for Years.You and your entire family I still see as you were then, in the eyes of my mind, even if I was just a kid. The House gone, stone gate posts remain, But don't remember the little house, and lots of other things about lueders people who were there for a little while.

I went into the navy at age 17, from 61 to 65, then was mostly out of country from 72 until 94, but its fun to read about the people and places I grew up with, although, so many are gone now.

I have been back there a few times over the years, and am considering going back there.

The fishing, wild river hog hunting seem to be good. The river hasn't changed much, but the beautiful cotton wood creek is just a gulley now, its been closed off, I discovered lake stamford, and saw catfish heads, of fish, weighing near a hundred pounds.

However, the beaches from jupiter to riveria beach ( Singer Island ) are hard to beat, and the reef, begins about 300 yards offshore, so its a toss up as to where to retire, around the good people of lueders, the river, lakes, woods, fishing, hunting,All those country birds and critters, bla bla, or next to the beaches, with the osprey nests, (beside John D. MacAuther National seashore park) turtles, gulls, a few gators, vultures and literally hundreds of bird species, the sea breeze bla bla. just down the beach from you.

I have a large 2/2 +++ condo, much larger than for me, hoping to get my spouse of near 40 years to retire with me, and move to America, but, alas, she is willing to visit on her vacations, but is attached to her work, and our son is in his last year of professional writing bachelors, and thinking about metrology degree, you know for high end tech writing, what am I actually getting old ? when younger, never gave you guys and gals much thought, but now with " one book " , or internet, information revolution, time really does change all things. Imagine the idea of only one book, a reality. wonder what it will be like in 10 years ?

Again, I thank you for all the work enabling us to get together and talk about the old days, You have your moms great selfless spirit, the robustness of your Dad, A Great Man, who, if you knew as a child, you will always remember. Yep, the Smyths were/are a great family.

The old church is still standing, Thurman, keeps the termites at bay, but Lueders will always be Lueders, and all/most of our church members have passed away, or moved on.

Remember Homer Thomas, ha ha ha, He had wayne and I herd and work his sheep, he used to get so mad, @!$%)*&.,2#3%6 when one gets away, they all follow, again and again, there was one buck they just followed, He used the entire flock to outmaneuver the three of us. One day Wayne and I showed up, the buck was gone, I don't remember much after that.

Jackie Cox, Class of 62


May 18, 2011

E-RAY IS NOT THE HOUSE THAT YOU HAVE LABELED AS THE RAUGHTON HOUSE THE ONE THAT MRS. DODGEN, ARLENE FELTS MOTHER, LIVED. WHEN MY DAD BOUGHT THAT HOUSE THAT IS WHAT I UNDERSTOOD. DID SHE LIVE THERE AFTER THE RAUGTONS.

ADA "CRAWFORD" WILLS, CLASS OF 61


May 19, 2011

Yes you are correct Ada. --- I did my labling according to the times of my growing up and the one I labled Raughton House was where Dodgen lived for a great number of years.

In case you don't remember Arlene Felts was the sister of Doris Raughton and DODGEN as we all knew her by, was the mother of both Doris Raughton and Arlene Felts.

So, in actuality Dodgen was living in her daughter, Doris house.

I knew from my classmate and buddy Alma Lou that a "Wills" now owned the house but, never realized it was your father.

You might be interested to learn some history of the house and be a little surprised to learn I once lived in it from January 1937 until August 1943 when the house set on the J. P. Vickers Oil Lease in the Post Oak Community and a picture taken around 1938 it is at this link:...  HERE

That house would have been built in 1936 when the J. P. Vickers oil wells were first drilled during 1935/36 because we moved into it in January of 1937 after the 1st pumper was killed when he got tangled up in the central pump house engine.

There exist two childhood homes in my memory that I grew up in and I think it neat, I can stand in the street and look at both of them sitting across the street from each other.

I have told a lot about that house in another of my stories for the grandkids "GranPa's Childhood Homes" and it is at the link:...  HERE

My Dad worked for Ray Oil Company who owned the lease house and when we moved to town in 1943 there was no need for the house on the oil lease because my Dad continued to work for Ray Oil Company and pump the lease until he himself purchased the lease in 1950 after working for them 27 years.

At the time, Sandy and Doris Raughton lived in another smaller house that sit just north of Red and Arlene's house and after Sandy inquired about what would happen to the lease house, my Dad spoke with Ray Oil Company and arranged for Sandy to purchase the house which he did and moved the house into town where he added a screen porch and a bath room addition on to the back of it as well as a new and different style front porch because both front and back porches had to be taken off to move the house.

Afterwards the smaller house they had lived in was moved out.

In case you ever wonder where the little back yard shed came from, it was the wash house on the oil lease and it got moved in also.

Incidentally their daughter Edith Raughton was one of my classmates in the Class of 53 so I continued to be in that house a lot during my teen years living across the street and Edith being a classmate as well as her cousin Carol Felts being in the Class of 53 also and living right there.

Come to think of it the 3 of us constituted 1/4 of the Class of 53.

E. Ray Smyth, Class of 53


May 19, 2011

Ada E-Ray has it labeled right. Doris Raughton was Mrs Dogens daughter and they moved that house in, Whan they left Lueders Baba moved in to it.

Sharon "Hines" Hudson, Class of 57 - WF High


May 19, 2011

Ada, I may have mis-spoke in my last posting.

I was reading my own posting and then got to thinking what I had said in my response to your saying your Dad had purchased the house and that got me to thinking. Alma Lou may of said her uncle now owned the house and I've always just assumed that meant a Wills now owned the house. So, can you clarify that for me.

Who does currently own the house and is it being lived in now.

Thanks, E. Ray Smyth, Class of 53


May 19, 2011
Thanks for sharing your stories.

Carolyn "Mullins" Pearson, Class of 65


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