Memories of Lueders, Texas
Pirate Chat Line Chatter for 2nd Quarter of 2010
The foregoing messages are displayed in sequences as recieved and without editing.
However, when not provided, the author's name and class year were added:........

April 1, 2010

I just received word that Patricia (Pat) Wall Cox, wife of George Edward Cox, class of 56, died Monday, March 29, 2010. The funeral will be on Friday in Whiteface with burial in the Lueders Clear Fork Cemetery on Saturday

George passed away on June 28, 2009 and is also buried in the Clear Fork Cemetery. George and Pat had three children, two boys and one girl.

Don Latimer - class of 56

April 1, 2010
Hi Pirates,

April Fools Day is always a special day for me and this year it is even more special because 60 years ago today a 14 year old 8th grader who had played hooky from her school in Stamford jumped into my Dad's 1947 blue jeep I was driving and my life has not been the same since.

I had just had the jeep in the Parade which always kicked off "Lueders Play Day" and pulled in to park at the softball field west of the school house.

I get a little sentimental about our school when memories come flooding back every year on this day and today I could go to the spot where I pulled in to park the jeep which also had Max, Carol, Kenneth, Homer and who knows who else in it.

I may have mentioned it before but, that day and how we met is one of the stories I am leaving for the Grand Kids and it is at:....

I can blame it all on Greta Olson as the story indicates because it was she who was responsible for the jeep ride she and the Stamford girls took that day which caused all the rest of the events of the past 60 years.

60 years minus 5 means we now been married 55 years come August 27th.

In her retirement years Jackie spends her time as a Porcelain Artist and just this week kind of made me proud of her as she is normally painting flowers and junk on plates or vases and things like that. I have attached her latest creation which is a painting of a lady which is on a piece of porcelain not quite a 1/4" thick. I insisted we have it framed so, it now hangs in the foyer of our house.

Please forgive me for showing it off but, I thought it pretty darn good and several of the Lueders girls knew Jackie and can now see what she spends her retirement years doing.

Cheers and Happy April Fools Day to all ----- E. Ray Smyth, Class of 53

April 2, 2010
Excellant Artist

Jackie Cox, Class of 62

April 2, 2010

Seems like I remember hearing something like that. Heard someone say that Greta and her friend just jumped into your truck. Think it was Greta anyway.

Mary Lou Odell, Class of 51

April 2, 2010

Ray you are a lucky man to have such a wonderful artist in your life.

Edith Atkison - Class of 53

April 2, 2010

My gosh, that is absolutely beautiful. I'm really impressed, Jackie. If Jackie doesn't read these, Everett Ray, then please tell her. No wonder you're so proud.

Greta Olson Corbitt, Class of 52

April 7, 2010

I got this email from my aunt, Maxine Vaughn Payne and am forwarding it in hopes that she will be able to get back in touch with some people from her class.

Terry Blackburn, Class of 66 - Abilene High

There was freshman class, and Junior class, and Senior class, Would one be a Junior high?

I believe seventh grade was the freshman class. I graduated when we had eleven grades, in 1941. (69 years ago!) Dorothy Jean Evetts, Glispe may remember. She was in my class . Henry Burkman may know. he graduated when I did, also. I'm pretty sure when we graduated out of grade school to seventh grade, we were called "Freshmen.

It would be nice if I could keep up with the people from my class of 41, or anyone I know for that matter. My E-Mail address is

Maxine Payne

April 7, 2010
Terry & Maxine,

As I understand it, when there were 11 grades, you graduated grade school in the 7th grade and entered high school which consisted of the 8th, 9th, 10th & 11th grades, which were freshman, sophomore, junior and senior.

I'm pretty sure that's the way it was.

This is who we have in the class of '41.

Members of the Class of 1941

  1. Berry, Helen Maria 17. Harrell, Marcella 33. Price, Daryl
  2. Bunkley, Doris18. Helmer, L. C. 34. Reves, Andrew J.
  3. Burgeson, Aileen19. Hendricks, Mary Lane 35. Reves, Robert Lee
  4. Burkman, Henry20. Holderman, Kathleen36. Scott, Raymond
 5. Byrnes, Madlyn21. Hughes, Clalie37. Shipp, Owen Twayne
  6. Byrnes, Margaret22. Jennings, Jimmie Lois38. Stapp, Marion
  7. Carter, Jerry23. Johnson, Mary Lou39. Tabor, Erma Ozell
  8. Dillard, Mercedes24. Marland, Leonard40. Underwood, Vera Mae
  9. Eubanks, Bonnie Ruth25. McCowan, Aubrey (Sut)41. Vaughn, Corrine
10. Evetts, Dorothy Jean26. McLennan, Gladstone42. Vaughn, Maxine

Don Latimer, Class of 56

April 7, 2010

Thanks Don....Is there a place where I can go get their email addresses, so my aunt can contact them?

Terry Blackburn, Class of 66 - Abilene High

April 7, 2010

Terry, Don't forget to check all the class names at this link:...   HERE

I think maybe Don copied the class names from the above page but, appears some names may have been left out. Hard to believe there were 48 members in the Class of 41

AND there is some Additional Class of 41 videos and stuff on the Class of 41 web page at this link:...   HERE

We don't show having any e-mail addresses for the Class of 41 -- I will however add your Aunt Maxine

E. Ray Smyth, Class of 53

April 8, 2010

Your classmate, Marion Stapp, lives in Irvine, Ca. She became a writer. She wrote books of our family and also on the Jewish religion.

Don't ask me why she chose that subject and it is too late to ask her. She is in a home for the alsheimers folks in Irvine.

She has three children.and lots of grandchildren. She still talks about Lueders and school. I was in your Jr Class production in the place of Bonnie Eubanks (who took sick) and it was a huge success..

Good luck to all you guys.. Winnie Stapp Barton, Class of 40

April 21, 2010
Hi Pirates,

You Pirates been awful quite lately and I didn't want you to be Lonesome So, here is you a song right:..   HERE

Cheers -- E. Ray Smyth, Class of 53

April 21, 2010
Come Join Us For

A Night with Mary Alice Putnam Vandeventer:

Congressional Gold Medal Recipient

Mrs. Vandeventer is a former WASP from World War II who was recently recognized by the United States of America with the coveted Congressional Gold Medal. Mrs. Vandeventer is a long-time resident of this area as well as a retired school teacher.

Dinner and Presentation hosted by

Lueders-Avoca School and Community

Location: Lueders School Cafeteria, Lueders

Date: Monday, May 3, 2010

Time: Start serving meal at 7:00pm

Tickets: $5.00 a plate

RSVP required. To RSVP call Dawn at 325/773-2785 or Melissa at 325/228-4211.

Sandra Reves, Current Staff

April 21, 2010

Its been so quiet, I thought perhaps I had been banned, but the way things were going for a while all the news was bad news. You always have something positive to add to the forum. Thanks, and have a nice day E. R. Smyth

Jackie Cox, Class of 62

April 27, 2010

Mark your calendars for the dinner honoring Mary Vandeventer on Monday, May 3, and the annual Lueders Fish Day on Tuesday, May 4.

If you will be coming from out-of-town for the dinner, plan to stay over and attend the Fish Day at the American Legion on Tuesday. Usually folks begin to gather around 10:30 to visit and then the meal will be served in the 11:30-noon range.

Sandra Reves, Current Staff

May 7, 2010
Dear Pirate Alumni,

It is with some sadness that I make this announcement but, I have decided to shut down the Lueders-Avoca Alumni Web Site effective July 1, 2010.

This did not come easy for me but, after maintaining the web site for over 10 years I find my interest has diminished and it is time for me to move on as I have 2 girls and 1 boy either in college or in adulthood and I would like to spend my grand mother years with more time for my family.

Unless you have maintained a web site you will never know how very very time consuming it can be and the time has come for me to give that time to my family.

I have informed Ray Smyth of my decision and he and I are discussing the option of what to do with the existing web site pages, pictures, etc.

If any of you have an interest in taking over the web site or have suggestions, please let me know.

Sincerely, Carlene Burkman Black, Class of 72

May 7, 2010

What would one have to know or have to maintain the site?

Jim Fitzgerald, Class of 54

May 7, 2010

I would not like to lose what we have in the way of a collection of a life time at the web site. Everett or others: how hard would it be to down load the material and go hard copy for the few remaining members? It would make a great addition to our family histories.

Max Dillard, Class of 53

May 8, 2010

Thank you so very much for all the time and effort and expense you have supplied for the website. Hopefully, someone with many more computer skills than I have will come to the rescue.

Thanks again from all of us for all you work.

Carolyn Mullins, Class of 65

May 8, 2010

I wonder if the lueders-avoca school would be interested in maintaining the website, It may be an educational opportunity for the student body. Unaware if they are teaching anything about software/hardware in highschool I am.

Could you let me know the costs of the website software, and which version we use, Is it microsofts endora ? I might have the time to do it, although I am not always in an exact location, and am frequently out of wireless range, and am only wireless. Would this hinder the ability to monitor the site usage, etc?

Thank You Very Much for Your Contribution, It makes the old codgers happy to know whats going on around their old stomping grounds, whats left of them, and the ones online. You are very kind to do this, and its completely understandable the time is too much, what with children family, and what possibly amounts to harrassment, and the older people get the more misunderstanding they become, they must take it for granted, and figure a web site pretty much runs itself, what with all the ongoing websites existing on the internet, some people probably think, once its actually set up, it pretty much runs itself.

Jim look it up under, How to maintain an existing website.

Jackie Cox, Class of 62

May 8, 2010

I had wondered the same..... If someone connected to the school would do this. As Jackie Cox said below, It would be a good educational thing that the kids could learn from.

Mary Lou Odell Bavousett, Class of 51

May 8, 2010

Sorry to contact the site again, But I was researching using the (wiki-based) dreamhost website software and was wondering if you would have any objection if I were to transfer the site from your current web host over to dreamhost ?

I have taken the liberty of contacting them and inquirying what would be involved. Firstly, I know it would require your approval to do so. If you are in agreement, and have not already selected someone else, then please advise me, so I can let you know the data I need to complete the transfer.

Sincerely, Jackie Cox, Class of 62

May 8, 2010

We had students doing the web site here in Knox City for a little while. It doesn't work! No continuity, when one graduates the web site just sits and is never updated. I don't ever look at the web site here anymore.

Thanks so much Carlene for all you've done. I guess my class (53) has used it the most.

Carol Felts, Class of 53

May 8, 2010

After looking further I found a universal web site server that is cheap and is designed to be used by virtually anyone, in school or out of school, and they have listed the Lueders-Avoca on their server. It would mean we would combine the two schools as one, the following is the add I responded to

HighSchoolAlums.comô representatives are ready to assist you with account questions, technical issues, billing concerns and more. Representatives are available Monday through Friday, 9 A.M. TO 5 P.M., Central Standard Time.

Toll-free: 1-800-576-4291 Or e-mail us at

If you'd like to chat with other users, visit our forum. It's a great place to pick up tips, share your reunion planning advice or get other ideas. If you have feedback that you'd like to share to improve the experience, fill out the form below. I filled out the form.

Jackie Cox, Class of 62

May 8, 2010
Dear Carlene,

Why don't we suggest a plan for the alumni to send you compensation for your ongoing efforts, I would be pleased to do so.

I googled "alumni web hosting for closed schools" and among the ones I read, this one was the more interesting of all. It may be a way to keep the lueders pirates separate from the Raiders, or the Lueders Avoca school district, since we are quite unique, and are all from lueders, and not avoca, and the last class was 1967 etc etc. It would require setting up a domain name, IE; Lueders Pirates, then anyone, either from the closed school, or whatever could send emails to the email address, which would help because as people move or whatever they sometimes change their web addresses. You may want to consider hooking everyone up to the software, which is free. If you have the time, consider it, for whatever you think it may be of some value, or whatever.

Thank You Very Much for all your work

Jackie Cox, Class of 62

May 9, 2010

I just got an e-mail from my brother, Donnie asking why I have not responded to the shutting down of the Alumni web site and I advised him, it was because I wanted all Pirates to have an opportunity to offer their suggestions and ideas and then I would have something to say.

Rest assured I will not let the Pirate side of the house disappear if that is desired.

As Carlene's message indicated she and I have discussed this thoroughly as we have always communicated regularly by e-mail and phone conversations and I have known for some time the pain she was feeling due to taking time from her family to spend on the web site.

I thought it might better be understood and appreciated if our Pirates had more of a feel for what makes up a web site such as the school alumni web site is and why it is very very time consuming. So, Pirates please consider and evaluate the following:....................

On the Pirate side of the house alone there exist:..........
2,160 separate and different web pages which were created and programed with HTML coding.
5,344 pictures i.e. images and each one has been individually edited by cropping, resizing etc.
82 MP3, WMV and SWF files have been created. (Audio, Video and Slide Shows)

In all there are 8,358 separate files on just the Pirate side of the house to keep track of and know what they are for and most of these are all inter linked in some fashion with the others.

For example, there are about 5 links on each page when means there are 10,800 links which have to be coded letter perfect to match the web page or image being retrieved. Not even upper or lower case letters can be different.

And for fun, you might like to keep this in mind;......................... In the commercial world a single web page on average cost between $65.00 and $75.00 just to create. Based on the 2,160 HTML web pages in the Pirate's section alone the creation cost would be $151,200.00

The Mustang and the Raiders sections each consist of about the same and Carlene has been maintaining both of those.

In other words the Lueders Avoca web site would cost close to 1/2 million dollars in the commercial world and I expect few of you ever thought about that as you logged in.

Admittedly most commercial web sites don't have 2,160 pages but, the fact remains our Pirate section does and the $151,200.00 is just to create and does not include the cost for a web master to maintain 10 years.

I will await everyones comments and suggestions and then I will provide mine.

E. Ray Smyth, Class of 53

May 9, 2010
Dear Pirate Alumni,

I'd like to thank all that have replied to the shutting down of Lueders-Avoca web site with your suggestions and thoughts.

First: The Raider, Pirate and Mustang E-Mail Chat line is "not" going down. Ray and I will continue to keep the E-Mail Chat Line going for us.

If you didn't know, the E-mail Chat Lines are web hosted on another site.

The web site host's the Raider, Pirate and Mustang E-Mail Chat Line.

Several years back, I purchased the domain ( and a hosting package so Sandra Reves could keep publishing the school district website the way she likes to publish them. I re-new the hosting and domain when needed.

In a few days, I'll write more on the WEB SITE shutting down TOPIC. I want to give it a few more days to give everyone time to give their comments and suggestions.

Regards, Carlene Burkman Black, Class of 72

May 9, 2010

Just want to tell you how much l have enjoyed your work on the school web site---as well as E Rays efforts with you.

You are one of the neatest people in the top category of my neat people list!! Thank you so much for all your many long hours keeping it going. But, my dear you are making the right choice, so never ever feel like you are a quitter. That family is the most important thing you've got going.

Have fun for the rest of yours and their lives together!!

Never forget, l love you and always will!

Sincerely, Reba "Meil" Davis, Class of 49

May 30, 2010

I should have already posted this but, I been going round and round with the flu and simply kept putting it off because I've been feeling badly.

However, I wanted to tell you that Marie "Watkins" Fuller, Class of 57 phoned me last week end to let me know her mother, Evelyn Watkins passed away on Thursday May 20, 2010 at age 90.

Evelyn had been living in the assisted living place in the old Wooten Hotel in downtown Abilene.

While home for homecoming in 2007, I took the time one afternoon to visit with Evelyn and I am sure glad I did because it had been over 50 years since we had last seen each other.

Evelyn and Jay Watkins lived in the house just north of us and Marie and my sister Iva were the very very best of friends growing up together.

It was Jay Watkins who dug the basement by hand and did all the rock work when the addition to our house was added on in 1947. Jay was a jack of all trades and also did all the electrical work.

A flood of memories came back as I write this and while this is about Evelyn some of those memories are worth telling as Marie was all time coming over to our house to see Iva and when she came through the entrance gate it would rattle and someone would say "Here comes Marie" .

Well at the time, we had parakeet named Pretty Boy who could talk really good and he picked up on that and it got to where when he heard the gate rattle he would squawk and say, "Here Comes Marie".

Pretty Boy became very much a part of the Smyth family as was Marie and so I told his story for the Grand Kids in one of my "Stories for the Grand Kids" and it is at the link:...   HERE   and there is a scrap book with pictures mother put together about Pretty Boy.

The Watkins family are in another story for the Grand Kids which was about the Water Witch boat engine Carol Felts and I purchased from Marie's dad, Jay.

If you missed that story about a couple of boys growing up on the Clear Fork in Lueders, it is:...   HERE

I was unable to find an obituary about Evelyn and Marie told me her mother was being cremated and other then a small ceremony for people at the Wooten Hotel there would be a remembrance of her mother later on in the year.

E. Ray Smyth, Class of 53

May 31, 2010

Lewis Markwood, Baptist Pastor, FBC, Lueders 1955-1964, Grade 5 and music teacher 1957-58.

June 21, 2010

You sure have been quit once again. I've been busy giving a friend a refresher course in making web pages.

I had showed him how over 10 years ago and he did a few web sites but, then got away from it and said he needed a refresher course. So I been explaining once again by E-Mail how to create web pages and after doing that in E-Mail several times for others I decided I could save myself some time when next ask if I would turn my E-Mails into a web page and just refer people to the web page.

AND then too I remembered when Carlene announced she was shutting down the school web site a few of you ask what was needed or required and how did you make web pages.

So, I thought I would make all of you aware. That it is very very simple to create simply web pages just by using the program Notepad which all of you have as it came with Windows.

Fact of the matter, I already created a starter web page and all you need to is copy what is on the Dunces Corner and Paste it into Note Pad and then save it to a folder and then go load the page i.e. file into your web browser.

You will recall we had a Dunces Corner on the School web site that had different things about computers and I have continued to add things to it as well as I have it on my personal web site and I recently added some stuff to it and over hauled it a little to categorize the different computer items to make it easier to find different topics.

I did not bother to update the schools Dunces Corner since come July 1st it will be gone anyway.

For those of you interested in learning how to Create a Web Page go the link:...   HERE  The Main Menu of the Dunce's Corner is:....   HERE

I've never known of a ISP company not provided space for their customers to host a personal web site so all that is necessary for any of you to have a web site is to create the pages and up load the pages to your ISP's server.

How to do the uploading has also been explained about 2 years ago and it is on the Dunce's Corner at this link:...   HERE

While creating web pages is  very  very   very  time consuming, I find it creative, fun and very relaxing.

I hope to see a few of you jump off the couch and show us a web page or two in a few days.

Cheers, E. Ray Smyth, Class of 53

June 28, 2010

Have received word that Alex (Junior) Barnes passed away about midnight Saturday night. When more information is received, I will post it.

Sandra Reves, Current Staff

June 29, 2010
Alex Barnes:

Graveside services for Alex Barnes, 58, of Lufkin will be held Wednesday, June 30, 2010 at 11 a.m. in the Fielder Cemetery with Pastor Michael Henson officiating.

Mr. Barnes was born February 5, 1952 in Stamford, Texas to Lillian (Kirkland) and Arvil Alexander Barnes, Sr., and passed away after a brief illness Saturday, June 26, 2010 in a Tyler hospital.

He worked for Brookshire Brothers Fresh Market. Mr. Barnes was a member of the First Baptist Church in Lueders.

Survivors include his wife of 28 years, Andra Henson Barnes of Lufkin; sons, Bret Barnes and Mark Barnes, both of Lufkin; brothers and sisters-in-law, Jack and Irene Barnes of Cleburne and John Harold and Delores Barnes of Lufkin; mother-in-law, Merle Henson of Lufkin; special cousin, Billy Wade Barnes of Arlington; brothers and sisters-in-law from the Henson family; and numerous aunts, uncles, cousins, nieces, nephews, other relatives and friends. He was preceded in death by his parents.

The family will welcome friends and loved ones from 8:30 to 10:30 a.m. Wednesday morning at the funeral home.

Memories and condolences may be added at Carroway Funeral Home, Lufkin, directors. Guest Book is:...   HERE

Sandra Reves, Current Staff

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